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Carrozzeria Touring Disco Volante concept

The string of early reveals in front of the Geneva Motor Show continues with bonafide auto-porn shots of the Carrozzeria Touring Disco Volante concept. And if it’s true that sex sells, Alfa Romeo could seriously clean up if it put this hot hatch into production. Coachbuilder Carrozzeria drew heavily from the Touring Disco concept it created for Alfa in 1952. The boattail-like rear window and tiny twin taillights are direct descendants of the 60-year-old muse. Same goes for the long hood, short rear deck proportions that just scream speed. Beneath the sexy skin is an Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione, including its 443-horsepower, 4.7-liter V8 and six-speed tranny. Looking to add a Disco Volante to your harem of supercars? Get in line. Quickly. Carrozzeria says it will build only a few for the very wealthy who probably aren’t you. Related Gallery2012 Carrozzeria Disco Volante concept





Range Rover Evoque Convertible 2012

While we’re still waiting for official details, we have received confirmation from the blokes at Land Rover that the Range Rover Evoque Convertible you see above is the real deal, and it will debut at next month’s 2012 Geneva Motor Show. At this time, Land Rover is calling the roofless wonder a concept, though a production model seems likely at some point in the near future. Based on the three-door Evoque, the convertible model will offer seating for four and be billed as the world’s first premium convertible SUV (sorry, Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet!).   Top Gear fans were some of the first to hear about the droptop Evoque when presenter Jeremy Clarkson used a pair of scissors to cut the roof off an Evoque during a news segment this week, but it took a while before the crafty Internet got around to leaking real images. See for yourself in the....



Kia Soul 1.6L Eco 2012

Kia trimmed its Soul lineup for 2012 by dropping the range-topping Sport model, and so now it offers only three trims: Base, + and !, which when spoken are simply referred to as Base, Plus and Exclaim. The Plus and Exclaim both come with Kia’s new 2.0-liter “Nu” four-cylinder engine that produces 164 horsepower and 148 pound-feet of torque, significantly more than the 2.0-liter it replaces. Normally we’re interested in testing the most powerful engine an automobile has to offer, but in this case we have our eye on the Soul’s base engine: a new gasoline direct-injected (GDI) 1.6-liter four-cylinder rated at 138 horsepower and 123 pound-feet of torque. Normally we’re interested in testing the most powerful engine an automobile has to offer, but in this case we have our eye on the Soul’s base engine. Why? Kia says the take rate on the Soul’s base engine for its first....





Toyota releases new FT-Bh – Future B-segment hybrid ahead of Geneva

TOYOTA FT-BH CONCEPT: TAKING EFFICIENCY TO NEW HEIGHTS FT-Bh – Future Toyota B-segment hybrid New concept designed for maximum fuel efficiency, built using economically viable methods and materials CO2 emissions around 50 per cent lower than the current average for the supermini segment Focus on five principal factors: low weight, aerodynamic performance, powertrain efficiency, thermal energy management and electricity saving World debut at the Geneva motor show Toyota’s FT-Bh concept breaks new boundaries in small car efficiency. It’s as spacious as an average five-door supermini, but produces about 50 per cent less CO2, and tipping the scales at under 800kg, its weighs less than a three-door Aygo. These feats have not been achieved by using exotic materials or expensive techniques: from the outset Toyota determined that the FT-Bh would be made using commonplace, economically viable production methods and technologies, including a down-sized full hybrid powertrain. Toyota took a “total vehicle”....



Jeep® Grand Cherokee production-intent concept to Geneva

Jeep® Brand at the 82nd Geneva Motor Show   – Jeep® Grand Cherokee production-intent sports concept: stand-out from the crowd exterior design and performance appeal combine with the efficiency of the 3.0-litre CRD engine – Jeep® Wrangler Mountain: new special edition-model with authentic ‘outdoor’ style – Jeep® Compass production-intent concept: all-new Black look for the compact SUV of the Jeep family     European première for the Jeep Grand Cherokee production-intent sports concept car that combines stand-out from the crowd exterior design and sporty appearance with the efficiency of the 3.0-litre V-6 CRD engine with Multijet II. Jeep showcases to the public in Geneva the Jeep Compass production-intent concept and adds a new characterful appearance to the compact SUV of the Jeep family. European debut in Geneva for Jeep Wrangler Mountain: the new limited-edition model of the iconic Wrangler. This year, at the 2012 edition of Geneva Motor Show, Jeep....





Ford Tourneo Custom Concept previews new European people mover

Dynamic Ford Tourneo Custom Concept Makes Global Debut at 2012 Geneva Motor Show • Ford Tourneo Custom Concept makes global debut at Geneva Motor Show to showcase a dramatic new look and preview introduction of an all-new family of one-ton Ford Transit people movers and commercial vehicles for Europe and Asia • The dynamic and contemporary Tourneo Custom Concept adopts the same Kinetic Design language as Ford’s latest passenger cars to take a fresh approach to space, style and functionality and target a new generation of Tourneo customers • Stylish eight-seat concept brings new energy to personal use, lifestyle and executive shuttle sectors; car-like dynamics and comfort brought together through a driver-focused cockpit and all-new luxurious interior design • Multi-adjustable and removable rear seating can be adapted for business or leisure pursuits while innovative technologies include SYNC voice-activated, in-car connectivity system with Emergency Assistance • Concept features state-of-the-art driver assist....



Mini reveals Clubvan Concept ahead of Geneva debut

MORE SPACE FOR STYLE: THE MINI CLUBVAN CONCEPT. – Compact lifestyle van for business and leisure – First concept of its kind in the premium segment – World premiere at the Geneva International Motor Show 2012 Woodcliff Lake, NJ – February 18, 2012 – Stand-out-from-the-crowd style can also be amazingly practical – and practicality can be surprisingly attractive. The MINI Clubvan Concept paves the way for an innovative vehicle concept without parallel in the premium small car segment. The MINI Clubman-based concept car, scheduled for its world premiere at the Geneva International Motor Show 2012, combines the driving fun for which MINI is renowned with increased load-carrying capability. The MINI experience will therefore find its way into new areas of life, the brand’s distinctive character gaining new popularity among target groups not previously on the MINI radar. The closed-off load area behind the front seats and the opaque rear side....





2012 Infiniti QX56 [w/video]

Based on the Nissan Patrol, a full-size SUV not sold in North America, the Japanese-built Infiniti QX56 was completely redesigned for 2011. Updates for 2012 were negligible, and basically amounted to shuffling some different options around to different packages. Our test vehicle was a four-wheel-drive model (with a standard locking center differential and low-range transfer case; a rear-wheel-drive version is also available) that carries a starting MSRP of $61,800. But in this case – loaded up with every available package – the sticker was $75,340, including the $990 destination charge. That makes the QX one seriously expensive machine and the priciest in the Infiniti lineup by a goodly amount. Of course, your sixty-to-seventy large buys a lot of vehicle. Make no mistake, the QX is a big boy truck, the sort that makes you think twice about tossing the keyfob to your buddy who’s never owned anything larger than a....



2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302

There was never going to be a problem with power. The 412-horsepower 5.0-liter engine in the Mustang GT is a corker on its own, but Ford has gone to a lot of trouble to extract 444 horsepower and 380 pound-feet of torque for this car. They could’ve simply bolted on a blower and called it a day, but in order to maximize reliability and stay true to the legacy of the original Boss, natural aspiration was called for. To that end, the 5.0-liter has been treated to CNC-machined aluminum heads, special pistons and sinter-forged con rods, sodium-filled exhaust valves and an uprated crankshaft. Other key changes include a 3.73 final drive ratio, reworked 1.0g-approved oil pan, a composite short-run intake and a unique quad-outlet exhaust system. The Boss offers one of the best soundtracks we’ve ever heard on a mass-production car. It’s those last two bits that will have you....





2012 Shelby GTS

As you might remember, this isn’t the first time that Shelby has built a Mustang for the masses. The Shelby GT from a few years ago was fairly reasonably priced at $9,500 above the Mustang GT’s msrp and featured an upgraded suspension system, cold air intake, unique 18-inch wheels, short-throw shifter and a few exterior modifications for a unique look. The car was a big hit, with Shelby producing several thousands examples from 2007 to 2008 in both coupe and convertible form. The Shelby GTS won’t be sold through Ford dealers like the GT. In a way, the GTS is the successor to the GT, but Shelby is going about its latest value model in a different way. For starters, the GTS won’t be sold through Forddealers like the GT. Customers have to send their own Mustangs to Shelby’s facility in Las Vegas where the conversion is done. The other....



2011 Chrysler Town & Country Touring

The biggest change for the 2011 model year (2012 models are just starting to hit dealerships, but changes are limited to standard leather and rear-seat DVD for all models, as well as some new colors) is the addition of Chrysler’s new 283-horsepower Pentastar V6 with 260 pound-feet of torque. That’s best-in-class power if you’re scoring at home, and the monster mill makes nice with a six-speed automatic transmission that offers smooth shifts and improved fuel economy. The Odyssey and Sienna may have lower starting prices, but neither offers as many standard features as the Town Country. Our $32,965 (plus $835 destination) Town and Country Touring tester also includes an impressive list of standard features like Stow ‘n Go seats that fold flat into the floor, a six-speaker audio system and leather-trimmed steering wheel and shift knob. Other standard features include rain-sensing wipers, power side doors and rear hatch, blind-spot sensors....





2012 Ford Edge Limited EcoBoost

Our Dark Blue Pearl Metallic tester in Limited trim carried a base price tag of $34,915 that rises to $35,910 by ticking the EcoBoost option box. Ford doesn’t mess around when it comes to the Limited trim: Standard accoutrements include leather-trimmed and heated seats up front, a 10-way power driver’s seat, dual-zone climate control, SYNC infotainment, a 390-watt Sony sound system, back-up sensors and a rear view camera. Our Edge was also packed with some of Ford’s top options, including the 2.0-liter EcoBoost upgrade, Ford’s excellent navigation system ($795), and BLIS blind-spot detection ($485). This Edge Limited also included the Drivers Entry Package ($895), which adds remote start, push-button start and a power rear lift gate. Also making the scene was Ford’s much-maligned MyFord Touch system – in this guise, it includes a pair of 4.2-inch LED screens in the gauge cluster and five-way steering wheel controls. With all options....



2012 Chevrolet Sonic LTZ

Our test vehicle was an $18,690, five-door LTZ. This is the top-of-the-line Sonic, which is why its MSRP was so much more expensive than the $14,635 (plus $760 destination) starting price Chevy is advertising. While nearly $20,000 for a subcompact that in a previous life was the cheapest car sold in America seems high, the Sonic hatchback looks and feels like a quality product from the start. Its design is aggressive, leaning purposefully forward thanks to two character lines running from the front wheel well towards the rear of the car. The Sonic has the best looking front fascia we’ve seen on a Chevy in years, with oversize fog lamps complimenting the projector-style headlights, which are wrapped in a black bezel to make them appear even more recessed. They will no doubt prove hard to keep clean, but fashion exacts a price. So too does the clever rear door handle,....





SMS Supercars unveils 620 Camaro, auctions first example for charity at Barrett-Jackson

When Steve Saleen launched his new company, SMS Supercars, back in 2008, he announced that he would be expanding his portfolio of vehicles to include the muscle car offerings from Chevrolet and Dodge. First up was the 570 and 570X Challenger, followed soon after by the 302 Mustang. Now, Steve Saleen’s muscle car trifecta is finally complete, as SMS officially unveiled the 620 Camaro at Barrett-Jackson this week. The car maintains the styling cues featured on both the Challenger and Mustang with an aggressive front splitter, side skirts, rear diffuser, butterfly hood and chrome 20-inch wheels. Inside is a custom leather interior, and under the hood, the 6.2-liter V8 has been supercharged to 620 horsepower and 570 pound-feet torque. In addition to unveiling the car at Barrett-Jackson this week, SMS actually auctioned off the first production example last night. This particular car was also a special “Bondurant Edition” in honor....



Studebaker Motor Company resuscitated, looking for investors

The annals of automotive history are filled with nameplates that weren’t quite able to survive the boom and bust nature of the business, especially here in the United States. One of the most successful orphaned automakers was Studebaker, remembered fondly for such design gems as the bullet-nosed post-World War II Starlight and trend-setting fiberglass-bodied Avanti. Sadly, Studebaker officially ceased producing automobiles in 1966, though a small portion of its legacy lives today in the form of the ex-Kaiser AM General. But if a Colorado-based business has its way, the Studebaker name will once again appear on vehicles sold in America. Somehow, we’re far from convinced any of its conceptual designs will ever see the light of day. Looking over the proposed revival, we see a range of so-called Studebaker cars, trucks, motorcycles and scooters. Half the motorcycles are actually Hyosung models from Korea with Studebaker scripting on the fuel tanks,....





Jonathon Ward talks about his Icon Derelicts in latest eGarage video

There are very few things that get the unanimous approval of everyone here at Autoblog. One of them is Icon 4×4, which makes impossibly expensive yet worth-every-penny reimaginings of history’s best off-roaders. For this year’s SEMA Show, Icon debuted something new that had nothing to do with off-roading, yet still had our whole team salivating. Christened a “Derelict” by Icon founder and designer Jonathon Ward, this 1952 Chevy Coupe looks like an abused artifact from a time not worth remembering. Knowing Icon like we do, however, it’s anything but. The Derelict is fitted with a 6.2-liter V8 from General Motors producing 430 horsepower and an interior upholstered in gorgeous vintage briefcase leather, but the exterior is as original and rusty as it was when Icon found it. What we didn’t know at SEMA is that the ’52 Chevy isn’t the first Derelict that Icon produced. Our friends at eGarage have....



BMWism.com chronicles BMW designers through the eras

Chris Bangle may be the name most recently associated with BMW design, but he’s just one of many men and women who have sketched and sculpted automobiles for Bayerische Motoren Werke. BMW enthusiast website BMWism.com has gone all the way back to the beginning of the brand, when a BMW was a knockoff of an Austin 7. The names we all know show up in the chronology; giants of post-World War II automotive design world like Michelotti, Bertone, Gandini, Bracq, and of course, Hofmeister. In addition to the Italian hired guns who sketched for BMW at one time or another, a few surprising names dot BMW’s history. Josef Ganz, the largely unsung automotive engineer responsible for much of the original Volkswagen Beetle, also did contract work for BMW. Aerodynamicist Wunibald Kamm based his Kamm-Coupe on BMW 328 mechanicals. Raymond Loewy’s mid-century lines were wrought upon at least one BMW 507,....





Jay Leno upgrades his 1906 Stanley Steamer Vanderbilt Cup Racer

Jay Leno has a special place in his heart for steam power. The comedian has a collection of vintage vehicles that have more in common with a classic train than a modern car, and of those, his 1906 Stanley Steamer seems to be one of his favorites. In 2007, the Stanley suffered a bit of a catastrophic failure, and Leno and his team of steam mechanics have been working to get the vehicle back into ship shape ever since. Of course, in Leno’s vocabulary, “ship shape” means better than ever. The Stanley now wears hydraulic drum brakes from a Jaguar XK120 instead of the manual drums found on the original Steamer. The crew also worked in a set of electric fuel pumps and replaced the acetylene headlights and oil tail lamps with electric versions. The team also managed to bump up the horsepower. The Steamer originally cruised along with a....



Saab collection to be sold after all

Just when we thought the classic vehicles owned by Saab were safe from the gavel, tragedy strikes. According to Hemmings, the vehicles held in the Saab Cars North America Heritage Collection will be auctioned in an 10-car lot on Friday, February 10. Vehicles like the gorgeous and painfully rare 1956 Type 94 Sonett Super Sport pictured above will join a host of other iconic Saab models for bid in Stearling Heights, Michigan. According to Hemmings, interested parties may submit their bids before noon on Friday to McTevia Associates, the law firm Saab hired to handle the company’s creditors here in the States. A 25 percent cash deposit is required. The collection includes notable hardware such as a 1967 fastback with 25,353 miles on its triple-carb three-cylinder engine as well as the 1960 96 that won the Royal Automobile Club Rally with Erik Carlsson behind the wheel. There’s plenty of history....





Amazing mod Egg chairs in your favorite classic racecar liveries

These days, you only have a Ball chair in your office if you’re an evil genius or confused enough to think it’s still 1962. The clever artists at Racing Emotion Design are out to change all that, though. The company has taken it upon themselves to slather the spherical seating, as well as an “Egg” style chair, in some of the world’s most famous racing liveries. Want to kick back in the same style as the Gulf Porsche 917? No problem. What if the Pink Pig is more your style? Racing and Emotion Design have you covered. The French designers have even worked up a chair in Ayrton Senna’s helmet livery, as well as the colors found on the racer’s Lotus 97T. In all, there are 21 separate liveries to chose from. We’re particularly smitten with the BMW 3.0 CSL piece, though the various Gulf liveried thrones are likely to....



Baja 1000 1970 Grabber Olds is our personal hero

Racing is racing. Whether it’s pounding the quarter mile into submission or kicking it sideways around a circle track, going fender to fender or against the clock is the same kind of rush no matter the flavor. As you well know, some of the biggest names in hot rodding tried their hand at what would eventually become the Baja 1000 in the ’60s. Parnelli Jones, Don Prudhomme, Jim Garner and Steve McQueen all headed to the sands of Mexico to bash around in massive muscle cars between 1967 and 1972. Needless to say, few of those racers are around today. Ron Johnson of Tacoma, Washington found what was left of Jim Garner’s 1970 “Grabber Olds” 442 back in 2008 and began the laborious process of stitching the vehicle back together. Miraculously, he was able to find the original aluminum-block 410 V8 and even the vehicle’s hood, which was removed before....





Aston Martin DB5 rejoining James Bond franchise for Skyfall

James Bond has driven a lot of fine machinery over the years. And most of them have been Aston Martins. But few have been as iconic – or as constant – as the classic DB5. The iconic Aston first appeared – complete with machine guns, revolving license plate, ejector seat and chariot-style slicing wheel knockoffs – in 1964’s Goldfinger, and has since returned to reprise the role in Thunderball, GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies and (most recently) in Casino Royale. And now it’s been spotted on the set of the upcoming fresh installment of the 007 franchise, Skyfall. Although this won’t be the first time the DB5 (pictured above as featured in Goldfinger) has returned since the Sean Connery days, it is expected to be the first time it will appear in full battle array in a chase scene. Related GalleryJames Bond’s 1964 Aston Martin DB5



Watch HRE make one of its Vintage Series wheels

We’re smitten with the Vintage Series three-piece wheels from HRE. The hardware is about as cool as it gets in our opinion, and you can bet we’d rock a set if we had a vehicle worthy of the rollers. If you’ve ever wondered how the company goes about putting the wheels together, you’re in luck. HRE and StanceWorks have collaborated on a video documenting the ins and outs of crafting “investment grade” wheels. The manufacturing process is set to a suitably epic soundtrack, and the high-def images of aluminum being milled from soulless blocks to three-piece glory are mesmerizing. Take a second to hit the jump and check out the clip for yourself.





Historic Porsche collection going up for auction at Amelia Island

Gooding Company, the acclaimed auction house celebrated for selling the world’s most significant and valuable collector cars, is honored to announce its recent consignment of the Drendel Family Collection of 18 Porsches. Recognized as the world’s finest private collection of its kind, the Drendel Family Collection consists of both road and race cars spanning 25 years of Porsche history from 1973 – 1997. With 10 of the 18 lots being offered without reserve, the arrival of this extraordinary collection in Amelia Island offers collectors and Porsche enthusiasts around the world the opportunity to own a piece of Porsche’s winning motorsport heritage. In addition, the March auction marks the first time many of these historically-important racing stars will have ever been presented at auction. Gooding Company has moved the start time of its Amelia Island Auction to 11 a.m. on Friday, March 9th to accommodate the extensive 18-car collection, as well....



Extremely rare 1913 Hispano-Suiza Type Alfonso XIII headed for Amelia Island

Lot 197 – 1913 Hispano-Suiza “King Alfonso XIII” Double Berline Estimate: $750,000-$1,000,000 US 64 bhp, 3,620 cc inline four-cylinder engine, four-speed manual transmission, semi-elliptic leaf springs front and rear, rear mechanical drum brakes. • One of only four built • An extremely original and authentic example • Fascinating history Almost from the outset, individual owners of the Hispano-Suiza entered their cars into the various road races taking place around the world. Engineer Mark Birkigt formally entered the factory into these forays and consistently improved the performance of his team cars until they achieved an impressive string of racing successes, which translated into sales. Buyers clamored for a production version and Birkigt complied, introducing the 45-Cr “race” version, so named because it was officially rated at 45 horsepower. The new engine was the Type 15T, but to the public the model was officially marketed as the Type Alfonso XIII. Young Alfonso....





Pogea Corvette modernizes an American classic

MARKDORF, 01.02.2012Back to the Future – POGEA RACING updates 1959 Corvette with latest technology “This Corvette unites classic automobile design in balance with the latest in modern vehicle technology.” This is how Eduard Pogea, head of POGEA RACING GmbH outlines the ’59 model Corvette convertible modernised by his company on a customer’s orders. And continues: “Within the space of only one year we developed, produced and adapted current technology to fit in an American Old timer. Our objective was to marry contemporary driving characteristics, a terrifically powerful engine, dependable brakes and a refined vehicle interior with classic bodywork.” The chassis for this demanding project consists of an in-house tube frame manufactured in cooperation with Foose Design in the USA. This frame not only significantly improves the convertible’s torsional stiffness, it also forms a solid base on which to mount the heightadjustable coilover suspension, as well as the modern drive and....



2012 Jaguar XF Supercharged [w/video]

Jaguar first introduced us to its XF sedan at the 2007 Frankfurt Motor Show. The strikingly handsome four-door, designed by Ian Callum, replaced the retro-steeped S-Type in the British automaker’s lineup when it rolled into North American showrooms as all-new for the 2009 model year. Americans were initially offered a choice between a naturally-aspirated 4.2-liter V8 and a supercharged variant of the same engine – the flagship was a model called the XF Supercharged. There were big changes in 2010 when a 5.0-liter V8 arrived to deliver more power to the upper trim levels. While the XF Supercharged also returned, it was eclipsed by a new flagship model dubbed XFR. The high-performance variant featured more horsepower, oversized brakes, adaptive suspension, 20-inch wheels, limited-slip differential and many cosmetic enhancements. Its target was enthusiast-tuned models from Germany and America. While 2010 was exciting for the XF, the 2011 model year was quiet.....





2012 Toyota Prius C [w/video]

Toyota is confident that it’s cracked the hybrid sales code: Offer more models. During the recent launch event for the Prius C in San Diego, CA, representatives told Autoblog that they don’t expect that the bigger or smaller Priuses will much affect sales of the Goldilocks standard model, now known as the Liftback, so their obvious challenge is to create more demand for the new versions of the world’s most popular hybrid. The V does that with more storage (read: family) space. The C does it with its shifter. Settling behind the wheel, the Prius C is, unquestionably, a Prius. There’s the push-button starter, the slight delay in calling up the “Ready” light and the now-expected silence when the hybrid is on. But when you put the car into Drive, you notice that the C feels like something other than a Prius: There’s an honest-to-god PRNDL shifter. All other Prius....



Kia renders Track'ster concept for Chicago

Things are shaping up nicely for next week’s Chicago Auto Show, key among them this new Kia concept called Track’ster. Riffing on the Korean automaker’s hit Soul compact, the Track’ster keeps much of the small car’s boxy style, but turns the wick up considerably by scrubbing the rear doors, fitting a gaping front end, substituting massive showcar wheels and dramatically lowering the right height. This isn’t the first time Kia has toyed with the idea of a Soul spinoff – at the 2009 Detroit Auto Show, it presented the Soul’ster, a rough-and-tumble concept vehicle with a small pickup bed. Thanks to a strong response from the public, the Soul’ster was understood to be under consideration for production, but its hopes reportedly fizzled due to the economic meltdown. Despite being on the market since 2008, the Soul continues to pick up momentum in chunks. Thanks in part to a refresh for....





Volkswagen BlueSport roadster still on-track after all?

The on-again, off-again Volkswagen BlueSport roadster is, well, on again according to EVO Magazine. The publication reportedly spoke with Uli Hackenberg, head of engineering with Volkswagen, who said the company’s dealers are mistaken when they say there won’t be a market for a vehicle like the BlueSport. Hakenberg said that the rise of hardware like the Toyota GT 86 and Subaru BRZ, alongside the upcoming next-generation Mazda MX-5 suggests buyers are once again willing to put down cash on an entry-level sports car. Throw in the fact that the dollar is regaining strength and European vehicles start to look even more competitive in the Land of the Free. Despite this, recent reports have indicated that the BlueSport’s planned sibling at Porsche has been delayed, and its other planned sibling, the Audi R4, is understood to have been canceled back in May. As a result, Volkswagen is reportedly going to ask....